- Grapevine was an AMIGA diskmag, NOT a poorly designed web site.

- Grapevine (Amiga) was BLOODY GOOD, in the UK almost a legend in scene circles. Now its been made into a joke.

- The site is TERRIBLE, VERY VERY Terrible, hasn`t anyone heard of DESIGN?

- The article content is OK, but small and weak, before an issue is released it needs content! What is a magazine without articles? Its a Grapevine WWW page, and its an insult.

- To use the name GRAPEVINE is insulting to all who worked on the original Amiga versions 01-21.

- Grapevine Amiga is DEAD, (Unless another AMIGA version is released!) and thats where it belongs, on the Amiga or DEAD, nowhere else! Myself and Shagratt have no issues with more Amiga coded versions coming out.

- Why ride on the back of the popularity of something else? If your good, get recognised for your OWN work, like the Amiga Grapevine team did, we didn`t find a dead diskmag, get one persion who worked on it to say we could continue, and produce a CRAP magazine. We started with enthusiasm and NOTHING ELSE, and continued, changing the GV team, covering all topics imaginable.

- The Amiga Grapevine team over the years put 100`s and 100`s of hours into Grapevine, Shagratt (Coder), Me (Main editor), (Ken D) all other editors, Echo and Spirit etc. (music), Spirit etc. (title picture), and this is while I ran it, after Shagratt and myself left I am 100% sure the quality, hard work and time put into it continued. The Web page is a FUCKING INSULT (and there`s no other word for it) to all the hard work that EVERY contributor put into it.

- I could design a better web page using just a page "Wizard", you can`t get much more basic than it currently is (and NO I won`t!)

- Grapevine was NEVER about being basic, from its first incarnation by Monty Python as a newsletter it was never basic.

- Heres another example of becoming crap - Razor 1911 - One of the best, respected, most powerful cracking and coding groups on the Amiga. Now restarted on the PC - they are a laughing stock in the cracking scene, and they won`t go away, they just get more and more shit, because thats what they are. They would do far better calling themselves by a differant name, no name to live up to, then they can be as crap as they like and no-one would really care. Its about memories, its about respect. Im sure they too got permission from one ex-Razor member or something, it doesn`t make it right though.

- How any ex-Grapevine Amiga contributers can stand by and support the use of its name is beyond me, your all being insulted, and your all taking it

- Where was the Grapevine/LSD spirit? We never took crap, we never produced crap, others where jealous of us, now whos jealous? - Jealous of this, I think not!

You have your own web magazine now, get your own name. OK so you where inspired by Grapevine Amiga, put that in your magazine, be inspired, BUT THATS IT.

Now for those behing the web page heres what your do;

- Lose the name Grapevine

- Get a web page designer

- Get an artist, your cutrrent gfx are not too bad though.

- Get a main editor (Ken D was always reliable in my day)

- Get sub-editors who answer to main editor

- Sub editors hassle people for articles and write themselves, and come up with article ideas (I give you a couple of original ones myself below!)

- When the site is ready, with good gfx and design and you have 100+ articles you are ready - Open the site

- Follow these instructions and even paper magazines WILL take notice of you.

- Don`t steal, quote your sources, be original, have a name that describes your mag. Dave thought of Grapevine because it was originally a news and messagebox (From the song "I heard it through the Grapevine", for the hard of thinking)

- Sorry I won`t give my email address, I dont need the bulk of mail, simon/dogbomb is in touch with me and he seems OK, thats enough!

- If funds are needed get banner advertising to raise them, BUT NO POP-UPS - Please! You probalby dont need funds though, its far easier there days!

Article ideas that havent been used in the press;

In the 1960`s Lou Reed wrote a love song it was called "Perfect Day", it is about his love for Heroin (It`s such a perfect day, I`m glad I spent it with you...) So why do the BBC use a pro drug record? I`M SERIOUS!

MP3`s - Many albums appear on the WWW before in the shops, but the bulk of web released albums on release make it into the top 40 Album chart. For example "Gladiator" soundtrack, when was the last movie soundtrack in the top 40 album charts? I can`t remember one! I suspect the industry OFFICIALLY hate MP3, but unofficially use it for promotion.

thats not the lot, but it`ll do for a start!

All typos, mis-spellings etc. (c) me!

thanx for reading, now stop insulting all the old Grapevine teams and lose the name!

Martin ex-pazza